Boeing 737 nearly FAILS to TAKE OFF!! Mentour Reacts

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What happened here?!
In 2016 this Viral video was uploaded by BristolCardifairport. It shows a Boeing 737 from Royal Air Moroc, during takeoff in Frankfurt Main airport. During the takeoff the aircraft appears to struggle to get airborne. INstead of rotating and flying away, the aircraft makes a short "skip", lowers the nose and then has another go at it and manages to take off.
There have been tens of thousands of comments made about this takeoff on Twitter, UZones and facebook and nearly everyone is questioning the professionalism of the pilots.
In todays "React" video, I will be breaking down the different explanations there might be to this strange departure.
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Below you will find the links to videos and sources used in this episode. Enjoy checking them out!
bristolcardifairport: Original full video
uzones.info/plus/video/e53LaWOBd5OkaYI.html
SOURCE:
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c0/CN-RNR%2C_Boeing_737-700%2C_Royal_Air_Maroc.jpg
ATTRIBUTION @
Markus Eigenheer
SOURCE:
www.flaps2approach.com/journal/2013/11/13/b737-throttle-quadrant-flaps-up-to-40-conversion-and-use.html
ATTRIBUTION @
flaps2approach.com
Chapter:
00:00 Introduction
01:28 Reaction
04:04 Flaps?
05:47 Trim?
06:33 Speeds?
08:25 External factor?
14:03 Conclusion

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Oy oldin
A pilot with the heart of a teacher. Rather than harshly rebuke, he took the time to calmly explain. 👍
Lionel Guzha
14 kun oldin
It's because of this video that I am subcribing
Leon Joskowicz
Oy oldin
@Mentour Pilot l
Derrick Willmott
Oy oldin
@TheChipmunk2008 QED!
Rose Wood
Oy oldin
@Xantec Yes if you can’t explain it simply - you don’t know it well enough. Basic rules for teaching ANYTHING. He must keep it as simple as possible even though it’s actually complicated. He always does this very well. This is why I follow him even though I’m not a pilot but just curious about aviation. 🙏👌
Burton Fisher
Oy oldin
@Zariyah Totally
Colin Southern
21 daqiqa oldin
@Mentour Pilot I think you missed the most likely cause; incorrect calculation of the Vr speed due to invalid FMC input.
Kai E.
4 soat oldin
[Caution: I am slightly sleep-deprived and slighlty annoyed.] I didn't watch your video, I don't know you, I have only seen your thumbnail - but it was enough to make me come here and just say: Please make more normal faces on future thumbnails. No one looks that excited unless they... I don't know, pass a gold-shi**ing leprechaun with the face of Obama on the street.
Micah Boswell
6 soat oldin
Subbed. Great breakdown
Mir Сo
22 soat oldin
Without having read Air Maroc tweet, problem likes that, could be also related to a wrong weigh calculation?
Cordis Die
Kun oldin
Thanks for this video
Olav Surland Hansen
2 kun oldin
11:50 reciprocal?! Perpendicular, you mean!
Marcus Ambrester
2 kun oldin
Great info - you teach so well.
Z1BABOUINOS
2 kun oldin
It was the -Libyans- mongols, Marty!
Bindlestiff Games
3 kun oldin
I've only seen a few of your videos but there is something about the way you present that is just so entertaining and captivating. You gained a sub today and I look forward to more new content in the future whilst I catch up with your existing stuff!
Tahar Ben Seddik
4 kun oldin
I wonder why the captain didn't aboard the take off, because I can imagine that the cockpit-crew was aware of running out of runway length after V1 (decision speed) and VR (rotation speed).
robert damico
5 kun oldin
I thought a narrow-body aircraft had to wait 3 minutes after a wide-body aircraft either departed or landed prior to depating?
leistico
5 kun oldin
I'd love to see you react to some videos by AirForceProud95. I know you deal more with real aviation, but his videos from Flight Simulator X Steam Edition are hilarious. Where else can you see a diamond formation flying with an F/A-18, a 737, a helicopter and a hot air balloon?
S.J. Gordts
6 kun oldin
The first thing I was questioning is why the AM Boeing was not taking off from the same runway the TA Airbus landed on a minute earlier... The subsequent take off did not really alarm me. I remember flying gliders and during take off while being towed by another aircraft this happened to me also a few times. No big deal.
M K
6 kun oldin
Wonderful. I learn something new every time I watch this channel. Thank-you
Mentour Pilot
6 kun oldin
Glad you found it interesting!
Jonathan Fyfe
6 kun oldin
Nicely explained.
Mentour Pilot
6 kun oldin
Glad you liked it
The Penguin / ROBLOX, Gaming, And More! Nootus
7 kun oldin
Mom: the Internet is a bad place Also the internet:
The Penguin / ROBLOX, Gaming, And More! Nootus
7 kun oldin
Btw I love this channel
Jimmy Bond
7 kun oldin
Miscalculated weight ?
Jimmy Bond
7 kun oldin
Starts @ 1:55
nimbleneedle
8 kun oldin
How much you want to bet if we listened to the conversation in the cockpit we would hear good CRM?
Ser Garlan Tyrell
8 kun oldin
And this is why aircraft are assigned a wake turbulence category, of which that A330 would have been classed as "heavy" (which was probably what prompted the tower to issue turbulence warnings in the first place).
James Russell
8 kun oldin
Are Schedules so tight that they could not have waited a minute or two longer before trying to take-off?
James Russell
5 kun oldin
@Mentour Pilot Not a pilot just an aviation enthusiast. I started watching your channel several years ago but really paid attention when you did that 4 or 5 way chat with "Flight Chops" and "blancolirio" . If I am not mistaken "Wake Turbulence" is why there is a or was a 5 min delay between departing passager service airplanes at least in the US. So by what you are saying wt could last 10-15 minutes? Then this is just one more thing that makes an AT Pilot really earn their pay!
Mentour Pilot
6 kun oldin
The issue with wake turbulence is that you never really know if it will appear or how long it will stay around. So most pilots will take off but with more vigilance
Armchair Tin-Kicker
9 kun oldin
Can not high altitude, along with high heat, also result in similar take-off phase problems?
haddock75
9 kun oldin
Excellent explanation and a great video
Martijn Arensman
9 kun oldin
I’m wondering if more flaps would solve the issue, is it? Then the lessons learned should be that more plaps are needed in wake turbulence situation.
John Bar
9 kun oldin
The problem with altimeter graphic is that when one sits down it looks like a collection of horrible crashes
lilaj34siren
9 kun oldin
At first glance it looks like he simply rotated too early 🤷‍♂️
Ellis Mellinger
9 kun oldin
I have a question. If I am a passenger on a jet and it is about to throttle up for take off and the slats are up should I say something ?
JW Smythe
10 kun oldin
All I see in that video is a pilot experiencing an unusual circumstance, and recovered from it perfectly. If they had kept the nose way up, this could have been a new story about the aircraft continuing off the end of the running, and impacting ground obstacles. There would have likely been a casualty count on it. It's neat to understand why, which is why I watched the whole video. :) If I ever start flying again, these are great things to learn. Back when I started flying, the Internet barely existed, and we didn't get all this extra knowledge and explanations of things. It would have just been idle conversation at the airport. My first thoughts before hearing your explanation, was overweight, air density not as expected, or wind gusts. I guess the last is somewhat accurate, the gust was just caused by the other aircraft.
DiscoRaptor
10 kun oldin
What has two thumbs and is subscribing... 👍👍 👈 this guy! I do love it when people who really know what they're talking about explain it for the comment trolls! 😂
Anthony Escalante
10 kun oldin
What about ground effect...?
mccloysong
10 kun oldin
Great explanation. But 1º flaps seems insane for any take off
Jeffrey Deeds
12 kun oldin
Excellent breakdown of what happened. On two occasions I encountered the exact circumstances you described while departing runway 18. We handled them the same way, with the same result. Spot on analysis.
Cary C Charlson
12 kun oldin
Flaps?
Alexis Jeaus Garcia Lodeiro
12 kun oldin
Great video as ALWAYS Welldone Can you please make a video of the Crash of a ATR72 that ctashed lamding on koh samui,thailand in 2009 please Cheersssss
Karl-Heinrich vom Dahl
12 kun oldin
Boing 737 MAX killer airplane made by unscrupulous and anti-social killers !!! Never again Boing ... AIRBUS flies !!
MEF
12 kun oldin
Dadgummit, Mentour! How am I supposed to act like an internet know-it-all with you out here with your fancy logic and physics and stuff? I'd give you a piece of my mind but my mom said my hot-pocket is done and I need to swipe her Victoria's Secret catalogue before my Call of Duty match.
bazoo513
12 kun oldin
This was _very_ instructive!
Евгений Карпович
12 kun oldin
Awesome analysis! Thank you!
Raphael de Kadt
13 kun oldin
As always superbly presented!
Stephen Riggle
13 kun oldin
Great analysis.
ted tedsen
13 kun oldin
No the 737 is STOLEN and they dont have a clue about flying
Tey Treet
13 kun oldin
Wow. I didn't think of wake turbulence at all. I thought it was overweight or something.
KnightsofNi 1
14 kun oldin
Never mind the plane, I wanna know what's going on with that chair? It wobbles, looks super cool lol! In all seriousness tho, really interesting explanation, love the manner and explanation 🙂
Baogar
14 kun oldin
My first thought when watching the video was that perhaps the plane was heavier than they thought it was.
Lionel Guzha
14 kun oldin
The pilots actually saved the aircraft from stalling...the adapted and over came the tubulence on the runway
Patrick Söderström
14 kun oldin
Tack för en jättebra video! Bra förklarat.
hallian98
15 kun oldin
Good video, really professional.
HackanHackerGames
15 kun oldin
:D I love the shirt omg A passion And a favorite song cant be more perfect !!!! And thank for the video really interesting
Mentour Pilot
15 kun oldin
😂 There are links to get it, below the video on UZones. Enjoy!
abc
15 kun oldin
Would love your analysis of the Air France flight that stalled into the Atlantic. (If you've done it and I missed it, I apologize!)
Chris Brunner
15 kun oldin
Excellent analysis of the issue the flight crew faced at FRA. Not uncommon, but handled very well. The advantages of going long on any take-off become clearly visible here even if the take-off slot that ATC might want to designate for higher movement could have possibly been questined, this should never prime over safety. Well done Air Maroc, proof that your training paid off in every aspect and phases of the take-off.
John Thimakis
16 kun oldin
Thanks for sharing. 😉👌🏼
chez84
17 kun oldin
Fantastic video! I've just subscribed to your channel!
Mentour Pilot
16 kun oldin
Welcome to the channel!
So Zemlji
17 kun oldin
In other words, speed solves everything. :-)
Stephen Barrosse
18 kun oldin
Not even a pilot but I love to learn. Great channel man keep up the good work.
mark holbrook
19 kun oldin
What about popping the longest wheelie for bragging rights!! LOL
Logan B
19 kun oldin
I don’t trust any airliner that uses comic sans as their font
James X
19 kun oldin
Correct you are....it is fascinating!
Pierre Groussac
20 kun oldin
I like it! You turned an internet troll story into a story of a job well done. All of your videos serve to remind me that I'm not a pilot--I don't have the required skill set to be one-but am thankful every time I fly that there are people out there that do.
KaMEL
20 kun oldin
Good explanation. Well, it's not Frankfurt main airport, like main station, it's Frankfurt (Main) Airport to make sure it's not the other Frankfurt (Frankfurt (Oder)). Main and Oder are rivers and Main is pronounced like the English word mine. A French student mixed up the two Frankfurts when he was coming for a term to Germany. Unfortunately he had dark skin and was beaten up by some East German short haired guys when he walked out Frankfurt (Oder) railway station and decided to cancel his German term. The river Oder is ambiguous too but only the big one has a Frankfurt.
winston cat
20 kun oldin
What could happen if they were just off the ground (say 100 feet) at the point they encountered the wake turbulence? Could it act like a microburst? That could be devastating.
Zsolt Raduska
20 kun oldin
Who is here after watching 74gear's 'explanation'?
Mentour Pilot
20 kun oldin
Welcome!
Abdul Qadir
21 kun oldin
The tower at FRA totally screwed up! They shouldn't had clear RAM for take off, instead allow a minute or so for the vortex wake of the landing A330 to subside. Would it be possible to install such sensors along runways to warn either the tower or the planes before reaching their V1? Great analysis Capt. I love your channel.
AJI TCHOUF BLADك
21 kun oldin
Je suis marocain 🇲🇦 👍🏻
Kilgorio
22 kun oldin
Wow
Jay A M
23 kun oldin
How about the possibility that a royal Princess thought she had forgotten her phone in the hotel and asked the pilots to cancel the take off? 😅
Scott Wiley
23 kun oldin
Good episode
Mentour Pilot
23 kun oldin
Glad you liked it!
Marcos Friedmann
24 kun oldin
Excellent explanation, what a fantastic channel I found !!!
Mentour Pilot
23 kun oldin
Glad you are enjoying it!
MMG
26 kun oldin
why did you emphasise that the nose doesnt touch back down, is that important?
O2HD Media
27 kun oldin
Could it be the weight is not properly distributed? More tail heavy?
Isaac Ole Mwai
27 kun oldin
Would they have attained the required speed faster or would it have been slowed if the nose gear touched down after the first Vr?
Mentour Pilot
27 kun oldin
No, not really
何大米 Michael Ho
27 kun oldin
thanks for the explanations. most of the pilots are quite professional
Andrew Mullen
28 kun oldin
I did notice in the video that the spoilers were fluttering slightly, is this normal on take off? I would've thought they'd be locked down?
globalste
28 kun oldin
If they were handling it in a “very professional way” then why did they not wait 20secs after the wake turbulence report, or file an ASR to have an investigation? The only reason that RAM said anything is because they were caught on video and it went viral a month later, citing wake turbulence and the now famous “the captain let it run a bit longer and tried to rotate again wake turbulence escape manoeuvre” that no one has ever seen in a simulator. If the tower had said rabbits on the airfield I’ve no doubt RAM would have said it was a “rabbit escape manoeuvre”. Quote “on Aug 30th 2016 the BFU responded to an inquiry by The Aviation Herald of Aug 25th 2016 stating, the BFU had neither received any notification by the crew, airline or airport involved nor by the person taking the video (see below) and became aware of the occurrence only through the release of the video into the public more than a months after the occurrence. The BFU argued that as result it will not be possible to establish sufficient facts and evidence needed for a detailed investigation, hence the BFU decided to refrain from initiating an investigation”
Jessica Litwin
28 kun oldin
2:20 that little 'ooh'
friedchicken
28 kun oldin
if you fail the takeoff you can always go around
greenola
29 kun oldin
So, so interesting cheers fella
greenola
29 kun oldin
Fantastic. Thank you.
paul156
Oy oldin
Clearing a plane for t/o into the wake of a heavy seems crazy to me, but they do it. I hate turbulence near the ground.
QuantumBraced
Oy oldin
13:12 Did you mean headwind? How would tailwind slow you down?
Zsolt Raduska
20 kun oldin
@QuantumBraced yes. With tail wind you can achieve much greater ground speed. (Once again, the relative airspeed is smaller, so to achieve the same airspeed, you can go faster)
QuantumBraced
20 kun oldin
@Zsolt Raduska Oh I get it. Wings generate lift when there's air movement across them and you get more air movement if the wind is blowing against your direction of travel. But once at cruising altitude I imagine tailwind is preferable.
Zsolt Raduska
20 kun oldin
@QuantumBraced another example. If you are in a car, which seems to be faster? The car passing by next to you or the the car passing by in the opposite lane?
Zsolt Raduska
20 kun oldin
@QuantumBraced you can calculate the speed relative the air by adding together the wind speed and the plane's ground speed. Let's assume that the plane's ground speed is 120 kph. And the wind speed is 10 kph. Scenario A) headwind: your airspeed is 120 + 10 = 130. So the wings are experiencing the same airflow as if they were traveling at 130 kph. Scenario B) tailwind. Now, your wind is in the opposite direction, so your airspeed is 120 + (-10) = 110
Zsolt Raduska
20 kun oldin
@QuantumBraced no. You need to measure the relative speed between the wing and the air. You should Google this: "why airplanes take off with headwind". But I will have a brief explanation here.
marcio tani
Oy oldin
Perfect and clearly explanation!!! We couldn't imagine the conclusion!!!
Eric Wade
Oy oldin
Are you in a storage shed?
Vocalpro International
Oy oldin
Fascinating. Poor bastards that copped bad press for doing an amazing job.
willy hero
Oy oldin
Funny, without knowing why i allready thought about wake-turbulance :)
Manuel Valencia
Oy oldin
Wow! I learned something new every day. Thank you for your simple and detailed explanation.
Philip Whitehouse
Oy oldin
Before it started when he talked about not getting it right I assumed random gusting wind because I'm a not a pilot. Wake turbulence makes sense.
Mike Casiglia
Oy oldin
QUESTION: I understand takeoff is accomplished at 80% power. If the pilot went to full throttle (assuming he was not at 100%) could he have pushed through that first rotation? This has been bothering me since I watched the video. I thoroughly enjoy your channel and I have gained enormous knowledge as an "armchair" pilot. Thank you for all you do for the industry and the general public with sharing your knowledge!
Danil Shebounin
Oy oldin
That was BRILLIANT!
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Oy oldin
The amount of "pilots" that are taken away by these very well done and sensical videos is alarming.
George Lyras
Oy oldin
So professional. Amazing. And bravo to the pilots, that took on the situation as calm and professionally
George Lucian
Oy oldin
Facinating
J.H Reynolds
Oy oldin
Royal Air Maroc is globally one of the best-record airliner.
Lasse Pienimäki
Oy oldin
Dialekten Avslöjar att du troligen är Scandinav :-)
David Phelps
Oy oldin
Good trouble shooting and analysis.
pirrepe
Oy oldin
Thank you, Master!!
Ronald Harrison
Oy oldin
I think you are reaching a bit here. I still think it was not enough flaps
Jon Padfield
Oy oldin
Incredible. I thought of the possibility of wind shear, but never would have guessed wake turbulence. Truly educational. Thank you Mentour.
Brahim Gatou
Oy oldin
Wrong Vr set in FMS, but we still the best pilote in the world, RAM always late but only 2 crashes in his history.
Jacque's Jems
Oy oldin
I thought their flaps were configured wrong and then to think it was vortices. Wow!
dcale15
Oy oldin
Only people that don’t have a clue about being a pilot was worried about that video!